If you have been following our SANchat theme the last couple of months you know we’ve been talking a lot about deduplication and compression. We were gearing up for the SANchat we hosted today, live from Dell Storage Forum in London. It, conveniently, coincided with today’s announcement about our new storage platform, DR4000.
Mike Davis (@mike_davis), who joined us in November and December, helped us wrap up this series today when we had a (slightly condensed) SANchat where we talked more about the DR4000. If you are interested in checking them out, here are the compression and deduplication SANchat transcripts from Nov and Dec.
You can find the full transcript below. Be sure to follow us on Twitter so that you stay up to date on the upcoming SANchats and tweet us if you have any follow up questions/comments! Join us in February as we talk about EqualLogic!
iSCSIKing: RT @gminks: There is a live #SANchat at 5 pm GMT in the Fluid Data Lounge. More with @mike_davis on #dedupe live from #DellSF12
gminks: a little more than one hour till the live #SANchat with Dell's @mike_davis – if you are at #DellSF12 meet us in the Fluid Data Lounge
gminks: today's #sanchat is a continuation of last month's #dedupe converation http://t.co/nGcSkfi5
jasonboche: RT @gminks: a little more than one hour till the live #SANchat with Dell's @mike_davis – if you are at #DellSF12 meet us in the Fluid Data Lounge
DellTechDE: RT @gminks: today's #sanchat is a continuation of last month's #dedupe converation http://t.co/NT6Y4NRz
RafaelKnuth: RT @gminks: today's #sanchat is a continuation of last month's #dedupe converation http://t.co/At3QGcPn
RafaelKnuth: RT @gminks: a little more than 1 hour till the live #SANchat w/ Dell's @mike_davis If you are at #DellSF12 meet us in the Fluid Data Lounge
annettecormier: RT @gminks: today's #sanchat is a continuation of last month's #dedupe converation http://t.co/nGcSkfi5
SFoskett: @fabiorapposelli I'll be right down in the lounge for #SANchat
gminks: cool, we're doing a condensed version today RT @SFoskett: @fabiorapposelli Ill be right down in the lounge for #SANchat
gminks: waiting for @mike_davis to finish his #DellSF12 presentation so we can start #SANchat
AlisonatDell: hello! alisonatdell, here! excited to hear about dedupe and compression stuff now that DR4000 was announced! #SANchat
mike_davis: Hi All, finally found a good solid network to do some chatting. Just finished a great DR4000 preso by Chandan. #SANchat
gminks: @mike_davis alright you are here, we can get started! #SANchat
gminks: @mike_davis and everyone else, we suggest using http://t.co/qFMJenhO to keep up with the conversation #SANchat
SFoskett: RT @gminks: @mike_davis and everyone else, we suggest using http://t.co/qFMJenhO to keep up with the conversation #SANchat
mike_davis: The DR4000 is a great answer for disk staging of backup data in SMB to mid enterprise customers. Our 2nd "Ocarina enabled" product! #SANchat
SFoskett: Question for @Mike_Davis: How much of the DR4000 is in-house Dell vs. OEM software components? #SANchat
mike_davis: We had some good questions in this afternoon's session. One about whether DR4000 shrinks data like legacy Ocarina algorithms… #SANchat
mike_davis: The DR4000 was optimized for backup with in-band dedupe, so we prioritize performance over [for example] special video algorithms #SANchat
gminks: RT @SFoskett: Question for @Mike_Davis: How much of the DR4000 is in-house Dell vs. OEM software components? #SANchat
mike_davis: The DR4000 was developed primarily in Sunnyvale (Ocarina team), including a new set of algorithms designed for the job. #SANchat
mike_davis: Are there any customers in the chat with backup stories to tell? #SANchat
CPMoroney: How will you be positioning EqualLogic now that Dell has Compellent for iSCSI too? #SANchat
gminks: RT @mike_davis: Are there any customers in the chat with backup stories to tell? #SANchat
mike_davis: @CPMoroney The physical layer is not necessarily the thing that drives customers to one family over the other. Other things matter. #SANchat
gminks: @mike_davis what sort of other things? #SANchat
mike_davis: Choice of Eql vs CML is driven by perferences for ease-of-use, scale, VMWare integration, and other factors. #SANchat
mike_davis: There is some market overlap between Eql and CML, but customers generally express a clear preference based on their environment #SANchat
SFoskett: @mike_davis @CPMoroney Eql and CML both have ease, scale, VMware integration. They don't overlap below $50k but above… #SANchat
mike_davis: We've talked to a lot of SMB-ME accounts and find a lot of JBOD disk staging, but not a lot of dedupe. #DR4000 is a great fit. #SANchat
Michael_EDavis: @mike_davis Is the DR4000 oriented more toward backup or primary storage? Some of the blurbs I read could go either way. #SANchat
CPMoroney: What filesystem is used in the new dedupe appliance? #SANchat
mike_davis: @Michael_EDavis #DR4000 is definitely backup. We will have different implementations for primary (NAS/SAN). #SANchat
gminks: RT @CPMoroney: What filesystem is used in the new dedupe appliance? #SANchat
mike_davis: @CPMoroney The FS used in #DR4000 is not something we're talking about since it's not NAS. We just need basic NFS/CIFS. #SANchat
mike_davis: @CPMoroney We are not using FluidFS here (which may seem odd), but we didn't want to inur the HW cost of HA; not a B/U requirement #SANchat
iSCSIKing: Finally able to join #sanchat
SFoskett: @iSCSIKing All hail the king! #SANchat
iSCSIKing: Very busy time to try and get somewhere in London before #sanchat
mike_davis: All hail FCOTR #SANchat
iSCSIKing: RT @SFoskett: @iSCSIKing All hail the king! < Thanks Stephen #sanchat
gminks: @iSCSIKing finally! I think we're about to wrap up so those of us at #DellSF12 can get to the Tower of London #SANchat
mattvogt: Hey guys, just checking while on a con call #SANchat
SFoskett: RT @mike_davis: All hail FCOTR #SANchat
plankers: RT @mike_davis: All hail FCOTR #SANchat
gminks: it got mentioned at #DellSF12 happy now Foskett? RT @SFoskett: RT @mike_davis: All hail FCOTR #SANchat
SFoskett: Hi @mattvogt! Did you see that Dell is releasing VAAI for Compellent? Got any questions for them? #SANchat
hansdeleenheer: RT @mike_davis: All hail FCOTR #SANchat
iSCSIKing: @gminks sorry it was a mad house on the streets tonight #sanchat
iSCSIKing: RT @mattvogt: Hey guys, just checking while on a con call < Hey Matt #sanchat
gminks: @iSCSIKing no worries, glad you were able to join Lance #SANchat
iSCSIKing: RT @SFoskett: RT @mike_davis: All hail FCOTR < I still need to get my FCOTR pin #sanchat
fabiorapposelli: Q: can the #DR4000 replicate to a remote site without rehydrating data? think remote vaulting. #SANchat
mike_davis: After @sfoskett explained the importance to me of FCOTR, I lobbied hard to add to our Fluid Data Strategy. Alas no luck. #SANchat
gminks: RT @fabiorapposelli: Q: can the #DR4000 replicate to a remote site without rehydrating data? think remote vaulting. #SANchat
JLivens: RT @mike_davis: All hail FCOTR #SANchat -> It is the future….of what, I am not sure.
mike_davis: @fabiorapposelli DR4000 replication is indeed optimized, including a global dedupe capability in many-to-1 topology.Very LAN effic #SANchat
mattvogt: @hansdeleenheer I think you forgot the #SANCHAT hashtag 🙂
hansdeleenheer: #DellSF12 can de #DR4000 replicate from multiple branch offices to one big central store? #SANchat
mike_davis: @hansdeleenheer Many-to-1 replication will be supported sometime after the initial release. Customers get for free though. #SANchat
bvienneau: is the #DR4000 inline dedupe? post process dedupe? #SANCHAT #SANchat
mike_davis: @bvienneau #DR4000 is inline dedupe and compression. No post process here. #SANchat
hansdeleenheer: #DellSF12 will the #DR4000 "global dedupe" only copy delta's? (bandwith reduction) #SANchat
gminks: I'm signing off everyone – keep the great questions coming!!! #SANchat
bvienneau: any stats on throughput published yet? #SANchat
mike_davis: @hansdeleenheer #DR4000 has optimized replication (just diffs with negative ack protocol). #SANchat
mike_davis: Throughput is 1-4TB/hr depending on protocol…plenty good we've found for the target market with 1-5TB backup sets. #SANchat
SFoskett: I wonder what @WCPreston will think of the new #DR4000 introduced today… #SANchat
hansdeleenheer: #DellSF12 does de rehydration goes as fast as the process for #DR4000? #SANchat
CPMoroney: Does the #DR4000 include the Ocarina content-aware compression or just deduplication? #SANchat
mike_davis: @hansdeleenheer Good Q, not sure I've seen the readback tpt numbers. Should be pretty symmetric. #SANchat
Bacon_Is_King: RT @CPMoroney: I made sure to get my FCOTR button! #SANchat http://t.co/iXUnYIjk >want
SFoskett: RT @CPMoroney: I made sure to get my FCOTR button! #SANchat http://t.co/KhoL4UH4
mike_davis: @CPMoroney Content aware generally assumes post-process so we can analyze the whole file. DX is content aware, DR4000 is not. #SANchat
mike_davis: Signing off from SANchat, thanks everyone! #SANchat
hansdeleenheer: RT @CPMoroney: I made sure to get my FCOTR button! #SANchat http://t.co/RZl4kPGA < we are wearing them too at #DellSF12
SFoskett: Looks like #SANchat is done for today, with @mike_davis and @gminks heading to the Tower of London! #DellSF12
hansdeleenheer: RT @mike_davis: Signing off from SANchat, thanks everyone! #sanchat < check! Thx for listening
paranet: RT @iscsiking: Very busy time to try and get somewhere in London before #sanchat
millardjk: RT @mike_davis: All hail FCOTR #SANchat